Oh Doris. I love Doris. Largely because she's played by Christine Lahti, but even the idea of Doris pleases me.
She is the woman who unfrigged herself. And proceeded to pursue her own life and ends, exactly as she had before.
Which, as is to be expected, disconcerted her son - hero Steve McGarrett - no end. And his fans even more. The commentary on Doris - which I largerly try to avoid and stumble across only in reaction to fic - is a terrifying glimpse of deep mother-issue id let loose to play.
Here is the H50 wiki entry. It's pretty short and doesn't capture much about the way Lahti has built her into this incredibly tough, prickly, emotional, capable, infuriating, three-dimensional person.
http://hawaiifiveo.wikia.com/wiki/Doris_McGarrett
In fic she is usually just sort of a background presence, more often a plot device to put Steve in a bad mood, or to cock block the prefered romantic angle. Sometimes as a bizzarely cheerful and supportive version of herself, usually off-stage mostly clearing the way for the prefered pairing. Where she has a bigger role, its usually as the evil witch. People actually advertise their fic 'Doris Bashing' - it sells. When she was the dead wife/mother to be avenged, she had a mildly positive, if ghostly, presence in fic. Now that she showed up, spiting and hissing and fighting for her own ends, those who talk about her in the places I come across, tend to really *really* hate her.
Fortunatley - not quite everyone. :-)
This is the best of the Doris featuring fic I've read, best here being for a quality of not-bashing Doris. (Or, rather much Doris bashing. The writer seems to think of this as a Doris bashing/hating fic. Which is. Well. Like I said. Mother issue Id writ large.) It is also a well written fic.
That the fans who dislike Doris because she's a bad mother, also and at the same time think Danny *is* a good model of a parent, by comparison, is one of those rage inducing topics I have to stay away from altogether. Not that I don't think Danny is a *loving* dad - because he is. Totally, completely, awesomely. But he's also a pretty marginal parent, and an especially crappy co-parent. The way he used family court to screw his ex-wife made me grind my teeth in fury. All my own view of course.... ;-)
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Date: 2013-08-29 03:28 pm (UTC)She is the woman who unfrigged herself. And proceeded to pursue her own life and ends, exactly as she had before.
Which, as is to be expected, disconcerted her son - hero Steve McGarrett - no end. And his fans even more. The commentary on Doris - which I largerly try to avoid and stumble across only in reaction to fic - is a terrifying glimpse of deep mother-issue id let loose to play.
Here is the H50 wiki entry. It's pretty short and doesn't capture much about the way Lahti has built her into this incredibly tough, prickly, emotional, capable, infuriating, three-dimensional person.
http://hawaiifiveo.wikia.com/wiki/Doris_McGarrett
In fic she is usually just sort of a background presence, more often a plot device to put Steve in a bad mood, or to cock block the prefered romantic angle. Sometimes as a bizzarely cheerful and supportive version of herself, usually off-stage mostly clearing the way for the prefered pairing. Where she has a bigger role, its usually as the evil witch. People actually advertise their fic 'Doris Bashing' - it sells. When she was the dead wife/mother to be avenged, she had a mildly positive, if ghostly, presence in fic. Now that she showed up, spiting and hissing and fighting for her own ends, those who talk about her in the places I come across, tend to really *really* hate her.
Fortunatley - not quite everyone. :-)
This is the best of the Doris featuring fic I've read, best here being for a quality of not-bashing Doris. (Or, rather much Doris bashing. The writer seems to think of this as a Doris bashing/hating fic. Which is. Well. Like I said. Mother issue Id writ large.) It is also a well written fic.
http://archiveofourown.org/works/767465?view_adult=true
That the fans who dislike Doris because she's a bad mother, also and at the same time think Danny *is* a good model of a parent, by comparison, is one of those rage inducing topics I have to stay away from altogether. Not that I don't think Danny is a *loving* dad - because he is. Totally, completely, awesomely. But he's also a pretty marginal parent, and an especially crappy co-parent. The way he used family court to screw his ex-wife made me grind my teeth in fury. All my own view of course.... ;-)